It's a mystery how the Smartest People In The Room keep driving off cliffs.
Admittedly, not as much of a mystery as how many copies of alleged publishing monster hit 'Chavs' were actually sold, but it's still an interesting question anyway.
Actually, on second thoughts, no it isn't. It's just two sides of the same coin. We're assured Owen is da voice of da yoof - even though there's no evidence da yoof - or anyone else - is buying it, either literally or figuratively. Ditto, we're assured that Owen and pals are radical intellectuals, smashing the cosy concensus of us tabloid-addled drones even though... well, you know:
Take that you Mail reading white trash!
Making sense is an optional extra - the main point is the Owen and pals really, really hate low-income whites with ideas above their station.
Admittedly, not as much of a mystery as how many copies of alleged publishing monster hit 'Chavs' were actually sold, but it's still an interesting question anyway.
Actually, on second thoughts, no it isn't. It's just two sides of the same coin. We're assured Owen is da voice of da yoof - even though there's no evidence da yoof - or anyone else - is buying it, either literally or figuratively. Ditto, we're assured that Owen and pals are radical intellectuals, smashing the cosy concensus of us tabloid-addled drones even though... well, you know:
an argument is an intellectual process, while contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person saysNope, that pretty much is most lefty arguments. Us knuckle-draggers say something and wild'n'wacky rebel tigers like Owen No-Figures say the opposite.
Take that you Mail reading white trash!
Making sense is an optional extra - the main point is the Owen and pals really, really hate low-income whites with ideas above their station.
4 comments:
"...Admittedly, not as much of a mystery as how many copies of alleged publishing monster hit 'Chavs' were actually sold"
I suspect it was inversely proportional to the number that were actually read, as opposed to waved about ostentatiously at dinner parties...
"an argument is an intellectual process, while contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says"
No its not.
.. and of course Jones goes from "Whoever was responsible must have known the almost inevitable consequences of their actions. No rationalisations exist for this sort of atrocity."
To this. ;
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"To even look at possible reasons why a relatively small proportion of people engaged in these acts means to be slapped down as an “apologist”. For many who are now enraged, scared, or both, it is outrageous to suggest that the rioters are anything other than mindless, feral criminals. This is, without doubt, completely understandable. Suggestions that we should look at a wider context to stop this from happening again risk being instantly shouted down: that one in five young people out of work nationally, a figure that is even higher in many of the communities worst affected by the riots; that half of all children growing up in Tottenham, for example, grow up in poverty; that the poorest living alongside the most affluent in boroughs like Hackney, looking at lives they will never have; or to examine the impact of a consumerist society in which to have status is to own things.
None of this is a justification. There was nothing progressive about these riots. The vast majority of people who are poor or unemployed would never dream of taking part in these sorts of acts. The evidence suggests that a decent number got involved for kicks, to brag about it, or simply because “everyone else was doing it”. But I doubt that they would have done so if they felt they had a future that they were putting at risk. We can dehumanise those involved, but we will simply abdicate our responsibility to work out how to avoid this ever happening again."
It's the old none of this is justified.. but here come the real reasons why it happened and it isn't that some people sometimes decide to do bad things, but rather they are victims.
XX Rootar said...
"an argument is an intellectual process, while contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says"
No its not.XX
Is this the five pound argument, or the ten pound argument?
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